Who murdered Murielle Guay? ( 1982 )

The Surete du Quebec’s cold-case posting on Murielle Guay

 

Conventional wisdom suggests Murielle Guay was butchered by American serial killer William Dean Christensen. Then why is the Surete du Quebec investigating her death as a cold-case?

This much is known. On April 27, 1982, 27-year-old Sylvie Trudel was found decapitated and dismembered in the downtown Montreal apartment of  “Richard Owen.” That same afternoon a pedestrian discovered the dismembered body of Murielle Guay in trash bags in a wooded area of Mille-Îles northwest of Montreal. 

Both murders have long been attributed to American serial killer William Dean Christensen (AKA “Richard Bill Owen”). So why is the Surete du Quebec continuing to pursue Guay’s case as a unresolved murder? (click here to go to their website)

Tracing the origins of misinformation on the internet reveals the following:

At some point between 1995 and 2005 the website CrimeZZZ.net posted the following:

the sectioned corpse of Murielle Guay, 26, was found wrapped in trash bags at Mille-Isles, 50 miles northwest of Montreal. Police were initially reluctant to connect the crimes, noting that Trudel’s killer displayed “a certain amount of expertise,” while victim Guay was “really butchered,” but their doubts were resolved by April 29, with murder warrants issued in the name of William Christenson.

On February 25, 2012 the website Coolopolis reported that:

“[Christensen] also murdered Murielle Guay, 26, of Laval, whose body was found dismembered in Mille Iles, northwest of Montreal, decapitated as well, but with less skill, leading authorities to initially believe that it was not the same killer.”

Finally, in his book, Cold North Killers, published March 3, 2013 Lee Mellor writes:

So when did conjecture become internet fact? Difficult to say. When questioned, my friend and colleague Kristian Gravenor – who runs Coolopolis – stated that he was simply reporting what had been reported.

Fact from Fiction

It’s hard not to hold Christensen as a viable suspect. He was released in error from Montreal’s Bordeaux prison just two weeks prior to the murders of Trudel and Guay. Bordeaux is within striking distance from the Bar América on St-Laurent Street in Montreal, where Guay was last seen on April 17, 1982 (contrary to internet reports, Guay was 19, not 24 or 26).

 

February 17, 1985 La Presse article on William Christensen

 

I cannot find any news item that definitely links Christensen to the murder of Guay. A 1984 La Presse article state he was “thought to be responsible” for Guay’s murder.  In 1985 La Presse reported that Christensen was “suspected” of Guay’s murder.  In 1989 Le Nouvelliste merely states he was being “investigated” in her murder.  

The Washington Post reported in 1985 that Christensen was “charged in the mutilation deaths of two women in Canada.”, but apparently those charges – at least in the case of Guay – were dropped. Currently Christensen is serving time in the United States for a Pennsylvania murder.

So who killed Murielle Guay? It’s curious. From memory I recall one other case of dismemberment: the 1989 case of Valerie Dalpe. 

It’s also curious – and frustrating – why the Quebec media doesn’t show a greater interest  in these matters. The Surete du Quebec have posted new information on over 60 cases. I’m sure they would welcome the attention, investigation, publication and support of media partners.

Apparently the Surete du Quebec no longer consider William Dean Christensen as a suspect, and are looking for answers. 

Information = Insight WKT2 #7

 

A recap of the Melanie Cabay case.  The dangerous offender Claude Larouche.  Stephane Luce’s cold-case notices on transport trucks.  Criminologist candidate Sasha Reid, and the case of alleged Toronto serial killer Bruce McArther.

 

 

 

 

Claude Larouche and composite drawn by potential victim

 

The Surete du Quebec’s press release on Melanie Cabay

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UPDATE: Sometime in March 2018 the Surete du Quebec added Melanie Cabay to their cold case website:

 

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Bad Dream House – Live WKT2 #6

A live performance of Bad Dream House recorded February 10th, 2018 at Sonorous Road Theater in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Christopher Pratt: Beyond Cities, and into the Real

 

“Home Brew: John Allore
When: Sat., Feb. 10, 7:30 p.m. 2018

You might know John Allore from any number of roles: as an actor in Honest Pint Theatre’s The Night Alive, Burning Coal’s Blue Sky, or PlayMakers Rep’s An Enemy of the People; as the former managing director of Deep Dish Theater Company; or as the podcaster behind Who Killed Theresa? It’s this last item that will fund his appearance in Home Brew, a new series from Honest Pint that features North Carolina artists sharing personal stories over beer in a casual atmosphere. Allore’s tale, “Bad Dream House,” is about how the unsolved murder of a Chapel Hill resident named Deborah Key literally landed on his doorstep (the police showed up at the house Allore and his wife had bought to search for the body after the prior owner’s son came under suspicion) and led him to delve into the unsolved murder of his sister, Theresa Allore, who became the namesake of his victim-advocacy podcast about unsolved murders in Quebec in the 1970s. —Brian Howe”

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Marie-Ève Larivière / WKT2 #4

– The 1992 abduction and murder of 11 year old Marie-Ève Larivière, sexually assaulted and strangled in Laval.

– The Surete du Quebec expands it’s cold-case unit to 30 officers.

– The 2009 murder of Natasha Cournoyer by serial offender Claude Larouche.

 

Marie-Ève Larivière in her snow clothes

 

Marie-Ève Larivière dump site

 

 

 

Marie-Ève Larivière

 

Marie-Ève Larivière

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Sûreté du Quebec beefs up cold case squad

Will focus on cases involving women and children

Sûreté du Québec intends to add up to 25 more employees to five-person unit working on 750 unsolved cases dating back to the 1960s

Investigators have found witnesses or tipsters are more willing to talk as time passes. JACQUES BOISSINOT / THE CANADIAN PRESS

The Sûreté du Québec is significantly increasing the number of officers assigned to its cold case squad.

The force intends to add up to 25 more employees to the five-person unit in the coming months, with a focus on unsolved cases involving women and children.

The unit solves a few crimes a year on average, but is hoping to dramatically increase the ratio.

It will have plenty of work as there are about 750 cases dating back to the 1960s.

When the squad was founded in 2004, it wanted to take advantage of relatively new investigative techniques like DNA profiling.

Lt. Martine Asselin says investigators have found that witnesses or tipsters are more willing to talk as time passes.

She says social media could be a new tool to help them solve cases.

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Eight murders in the region unsolved: La Presse December 11, 1999

Here is a rough English translation of the La Presse article I keep referencing in my podcasts from December 11, 1999:

Eight unresolved murders in the area

 MARCEL LAROCHE and JEAN-PAUL CHARBONNEAU

Between 1987 and 1995, the bodies of eight girls and teenage girls who were kidnapped were found in isolated areas of the north of Montreal and in six surrounding municipal areas. And in none of these monstrous crimes discovered in Laval, Blainville, Rosemère, Mascouche, L’Assomption, Saint-Roch-de-l’Achigan and in the former Carrier Miron ( Montreal), where there is some sexual assault, the police have not been able to apprehend a single suspect to date.

 

It should also be noted that the killers may have thought that there was less risk of getting caught by filing the body of their victims in this region, “adds the police. The corpses of three girls and a teenager were found far away from the place of their disappearance in Blainville, Laval and Sainte-Thérèse. In these eight murder cases, which run from October 1987 to June 1995, the victims were all removed from their homes. Many were sexually assaulted, while others were beaten, strangled or stabbed.

The disappearance of Lyette Gibb, 19, who lives in the Chomedey district of Laval, was reported by her adoptive parents on April 26, 1987. The skeletal remains of the young woman were found at the foot of a tree, in a wood of the Assumption, October 25, 1987.

Sophie Landry, 16, left the home of his parents, La Prairie, on the South Shore, the evening of Sunday, August 23, 1987, to wait by bus at the Longueuil metro station, then take another bus that would take her to Saint-Hyacinthe. Her mutilated corpse – she had received 173 stab wounds, in addition to being sexually assaulted – was discovered the next morning in a small pathway through a cornfield in Saint-Roch-de-l’Achigan.

Chantal Rochon, 17, left from her family home in Blainville on June 10, 1988. Her remains were found in a state of decomposition  on June 23 in a wood in Blainville.

The disappearance of Valérie Dalpé, age 13, from Saint-Léonard , municipality of the northeastern suburbs of the island of Montreal, was reported to the MUHC on October 18, 1989. His body, dismembered by saw and decimated in garbage bags, were to be discovered the next day by garbage collectors at the Mion quarry.

Marie-Ève ​​Larivière, 11, of Laval, was visiting the home of her parents’ friends when she disappeared March 7 1992. Her corpse was found the next day, abandoned near the railway line along Saint-Martin Boulevard, about five miles from the scene of his disappearance. The child had been sexually assaulted and killed by strangulation.

Melanie Cabay, 19, of Montreal, was abducted on June 22, 1994.The body of the young woman was finally discovered on July 5, concealed under construction materials, in Mascouche. She had been beaten and strangled.

Marie-Chantale Desjardins, 10, living in Sainte-Thérèse, had been missing for four days when her body was found on July 20, 1994 in a wooded area located behind the Place Rosemère shopping center, her bicycle lying beside her, she had been sexually assaulted and strangled.

Joleil Campeau, 10, from Laval, went for a run when she was abducted from the street on June 12, 1995. The girl’s body was found four days later, buried in a swamp, only a few meters from her home in Laval.

These heinous murders may well be good to remain unpunished forever, unless one of the authors, remorseful, confides in himself. It is almost impossible in these cases that an informant – often helpful in elucidating cries – can help the police. In the opinion of several investigators, an individual who kills a child or a woman will never boast of it, unlike What happens after the commission of other crimes.When the author of a crime speaks of his prowess.

 

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…these butchers – Valérie Dalpé / WKT2 #3

Pardon me thou bleeding piece of earth, that I am meek and gentle with these butchers…

 

This podcast profiles the 1988 murder of seventeen year old Chantal Rochon and the 1989 murder of thirteen year old Valérie Dalpé.

 

Chantal Rochon

 

 

Valérie Dalpé

 

 

Club Social Consenza, the Rizzuto mafia’s hangout at 4891 Jarry St. E., Montreal

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Hands With Slaughter Stained – WKT2 / #2

 

Eighteen year old Lyette Gibb was last seen on April 25, 1987 near her parents home in Chomendey on the island of Laval. Six months later her remains were found at the foot of a tree in the woods near Assomption, Quebec.

 

Lyette Gibb

 

On August 23, 1987, seventeen year old Sophie Landry disappeared from a Longueuil bus terminal while traveling from her parents home in La Prairie to the juvenile detention center she was living at on weekdays in Saint-Hyacinthe. The following morning Landry’s body was found in a cornfield North of Montreal (Saint-Roch-de-l’Achigan). She had been sexually assaulted and stabbed 173 times. 

 

Sophie Landry

 

In 2002, 45-year-old Guy Croteau was arrested for the murder of Sophie Landry. Convicted in 2004, Croteau is not eligible for parole until 2027.

 

The many faces of Guy Croteau

 

Lynette Gibbs murder remains an unsolved cold-case on the Surete du Quebec’s docket. 

 

NOT Guy Croteau

 

Quebec’s Dossiers Mystères featuring the Landry case:

 

Nice try Columbo:

 

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