Evidence suggests connection between murders of Lison Blais and Louise Camirand

Following on my posts from last week, I’m now going to do what the Quebec police should have done for decades now. I’m going to demonstrate to you a very simple, and possible link between the murders of Lison Blais and Louise Camirand. The evidence was right there ready for the Surete du Quebec to discover, they simply never bothered to look at the information. 

I was really hoping not to have to do this. I was hoping the Surete du Quebec would make an honest effort to be accountable and transparent, but I have waited patiently for over 10 years. They have done nothing. So now I will – again – do it myself.

First some background on Lison Blais:

L BlaisBlais was found murdered the morning of June 4, 1978 a few feet from the entrance of her home where she lived with her parents at 4685 rue Christophe Colomb in Montreal. The previous evening she had been out with friends, first at a discotheque on Saint Denis, then later at the Philippe Disco Bar on Saint Laurent. She left the bar at about 3:25 am. 

Her body was found at 9:00 am that following morning. She had been struck on the head, and there were choke marks on her neck. She had been raped. The original investigators were Jean Legros and Claude Lecheppelle of Montreal’s municipal police force (MUC).

 

 

 

investigators were Jean Legros and Claude Lecheppelle of Montreal's municipal police force (MUC)

investigators Jean Legros and Claude Lecheppelle of Montreal’s municipal police force (MUC)

 

Police noted that some clothing was missing, including Lison’s black purse.

Writing in Allo Police on June 18, 1978 reporter Jacques Durand noted the similarity with other murders at that time including, Catherine Hawkes (missing purse), Louise Camirand (strangled, missing clothing), Jocelyne Houle, Johanne Dorion (Dorion and Houle were both nursing students), Helene Monast (strangled, missing items), and Lise Labadie (one of the “Plaines of Abraham” murders from 1976 in Quebec City).

(To see how all these cases interconnect, go here to the maps. When you do, you will notice that Blais lived blocks away from another possibly connected victim, Denise Bazinet)

Of particular note was Lison’s missing black purse, shown here:

purse drawing

This is a police composite. You see that the sketch is white to demonstrate some definition, but the article where the drawing was published clearly states that Lison’s missing purse was black:

Allo P 790618 pg 3 4 L Blais (3

And here is the statement released by police concerning the black purse:

L Blais Communiqué

Police went to some effort to find this purse, enlisting the public for help, but it was never located.

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Now I must ask to anyone who has been on this site for the last 10 years, does this purse look familiar to any of you?

It should.

It is strikingly similar to a purse that was recovered from a site that was searched in 2006, the very site where Louise Camirand’s body was discovered, March 25, 1977:

purse2

Further recall that the search in 2006 was lead by Quebec Secours, and assisted by victim survivors and volunteers. The Surete du Quebec refused to participate in the search on the grounds that it was too much work. The purse became a major focal point in a series of articles written by Allison Hanes – then of the National Post – back in July 2006 (you can read here).  

Here is another look at the purse where you can see the broken strap:

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So maybe this is a case of, “So what? That was the style of purse all woman had in that era.”. Or maybe it is a case of, “That IS Lison Blais’ purse found at the site where Louise Camirand’s body was dumped”. The same site where hunters claimed to have found clothing matching the description of those worn by Theresa Allore the day she disappeared, November 3rd, 1978. Maybe this is a perpetrator who returns to crime scenes and dumps evidence there (recall that a garbage bag of clothing was found where Theresa Allore’s body was left, but not clothing that belonged to her).

The police have had 10 years to piece this together. They never did. How do I know? If someone was on the ball they would have contacted me the moment they connected the recovered purse to the Blais purse and asked me to send it to them for examination. No one ever did that. No doubt because of some cross jurisdiction turf-war between the Montreal police and the Quebec provincial police, the Surete du Quebec. No communication.  Whoever heard of a serial criminal respecting police boundaries? Police have squandered ten years.

So where is the black purse now? I don’t know. We sent it to a forensics lab in British Columbia because, again, the Surete du Quebec refused to process it. We had to go to a private lab, ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO AGREED TO DO THE WORK FOR FREE, rather than go to the very agency responsible for processing evidence.

If we are extremely lucky, they may have kept it, but it has been 10 years.

Quebec Police: Please do your job.

 

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  1. Terry Comments:

    “I remember distinctly finding that purse that day in 2006. It was “throwing distance” from the spot that Louise Camirands body was found. It was in relative good shape considering it was in the elements for years, but was “filled” with what appeared to be mud, but we were cautioned that that might have been the contents of the purse which had decomposed over the years.

    We carefully preserved the find (along with some other items of a questionable nature, one of them being a rubber strap that was bound around a tree branch!), and I personally shipped that box to the address I was given (Simon Fraser University I believe in Vancouver).

    The search we performed, with almost 80 volunteers that day plus local media and reporters, was along a dusty abandoned-looking road which looked like it was mainly used to access deep into the woods, likely used by hunters. So the chances that a woman would decide to “discard” her purse in the woods filled with any contents, I thought was rare. For the record, there was no “garbage” dump at that site, the purse was by itself. Records we took that day would indicate the exact GPS coordinates and measurements that the purse was found.

    Now If it was there before Mlle Camirands body was discovered, then why didn’t the detectives discover it when supposedly doing their “crime scene” investigation. If it was afterwards, still , how and why was it there?

    Many other questions were also raised. We had heard rumors that Louise Camirand had not only been raped and murdered, but that her body was left mutilated by a “car jack” left protruding from her. This is what was reported in the papers at the time.

    We went a step further. John had arranged for Allo Police to “open up” their files to us, and show us whatever they had. Allo Police was a weekly Quebec tabloid that basically covered crime. The pictures in there were almost always the most gruesome, but obviously it had a market so it existed.
    And I was always curious how they managed to always get these pictures anyways. It turns out that Allo Police happens to BE the Surete Quebec’s and local police forces official photographers. So this way they are always called to be there “first” to take pictures and have the best close-ups and/or gruesome shots possible. Kind of like forensics “official crime papparazzi that happens to also own a newspaper”,

    I guess in return for their services, they could use whatever pictures they wanted. Strange alliance but I guess thats what the police did in those days.

    Anyways, I was given a room alone with 3 file folders fully stocked with hundreds of photos from 3 crime scenes (Louise Camirand, Manon Dube and Theresa Allore) ..and I brought my scanner and laptop. They told me I could have full access to anything in the folders I wanted to see or copy as long as I 1) did not leave with anything physical and 2) I didn’t mix up the files. Of course I complied, all I wanted was to scan as many pictures as I could for John. I was in there for about 3 hours and scanned the entire time. Many photos were of no real value (ie: pictures of Louise Camirands house, and many of the people who were at her funeral) but the crime scene photos I did scan.

    There were many of Louise Camirands body, surrounded by about 6-8 men, one of them Roch Gaudrault and the others probably morgue drivers and perhaps locals who came by at the curiosity of the excitement.
    The photos were extremely graphic and closeup. I was quite put off by doing this job and seeing photos of something I had never seen before, namely the newly discovered body of a murdered girl, but after a while, it just because a job to do. I scanned and saved. Scanned and saved. All 3 files.

    The first discovery I made was that the body of Louise Camirand had NO object, car jack or anything, as described by the police reports to the papers. Another one was that all the pictures had the men milling around the body for what seemed like hours as they waited for the morgue truck or whatever. All these “men” including Roch Gaudrault were talking to each other, smoking cigarettes, looking down at the body. There were no photos of ANY evidence taking.
    It wasn’t like you saw on TV, with crime tape and tweezers and swabs, guys in gloves and hazmat suits to avoid contaminating evidence, etc. None of that. In the last photos of them loading the body into the morgue truck, they all looked like they were ready to leave when the body did. And there were no footprints in the snow beyond a few feet of the body…

    In other words, they found the body, waited for the morgue and left. There could have been a WEALTH of evidence around that body, especially on top of snow where anything thrown or tossed would have been clearly visible. Whether there was evidence or not at the time which could have been crucial to solve a murder, we will never know. Nothing was searched and therefore nothing was found.

    Until almost 30 years later, when it took the efforts of John Allore and Sue Sutherland to arrange volunteers to search that area.

    And that when we found an abandoned purse.”

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